1. A fantastic article by Rip.

    I think people get caught up in having a stiff back after deadlifts because of the dangers of “back pain”. No one worries when their legs are exhausted from squatting…

    Enjoy your day.

  2. This is the best blog.

  3. Robert Novy-Marx
    December 3, 2009 - 10:06 am

    Hey Matt,

    Dave Tate doesn’t think you need more than a few days to recover. You can’t do the ME type training that he thinks demands weeks recovery until you’re highly trained (like pulling 750 off the floor). Relative beginners just can’t work hard enough to tax themselves to the point where they need long breaks.

    Personally, I think there is also an endogeneity issue. The types of athletes that can get to the point where they can do the type of workouts Tate has in mind might just be athletes that are better served with longer recovery periods (big guys with a heavy predominance of fast twitch fibers). You have watch out for these sorts of issues whenever you read fitness experts– they generally have no clue about self selection. Another example of this is the continual assertion (often by people I generally respect a lot) that O-lifts are great for developing quickness/sprinting speed, because world class Olympic lifters are the fastest people in the world for short distant sprints (20-30m). Well duh! You don’t get to be a world class O-lifter without unbelievable explosive power. Does that mean that O-lifting builds sprint speed? Probably, but you can’t tell from this “evidence,” anymore than you can tell that playing basketball makes you tall by looking at the best basketball players.

  4. Believe me, I’m not thinking that my M.E. warrants a 2 week recovery period. It’s two days later and I’m feeling pretty much good to go!

    What I am saying is, if 2 weeks is good for a heavy lifter’s M.E. deadlift, then a little extra recovery (a day or two) for a CrossFitter at my level is probably also a good thing.

    Also, man, I love this scientific monkey wrench you throw in the mix about the correlation of O-lifting capacity and speed. We all hope these lifts will make us stronger (and I trust that the evidence supports that they will) and also faster (but you point out that the evidence is ambiguous there). You’re the best, man!

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